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Title: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: MISTER on June 12, 2015, 04:33:33 pm
Mike,
When I was young contrails would disburse after only a few minutes, once the plane had passed.
The "contrails" that you say all these planes are leaving, are lasting upwards of a half an hour to 45 minutes, then they disburse and make the sky all milky, not very contrail-like, not at all.
IMHO
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: BraveNewWhirled on June 14, 2015, 08:25:18 am
Mike,
When I was young contrails would disburse after only a few minutes, once the plane had passed.
The "contrails" that you say all these planes are leaving, are lasting upwards of a half an hour to 45 minutes, then they disburse and make the sky all milky, not very contrail-like, not at all.
IMHO

Yes I remember when contrails NEVER spread out to form a hazy cloud cover. Now, they become spider web-like checkerboards in the sky. But nobody listens to old farts like us, who will soon die off, taking our memories, and patriotic moral ideals with us.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Bob Shaffer on June 15, 2015, 10:08:03 am
It's disperse; not disBurse.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: nscholten on June 15, 2015, 02:23:26 pm
I think Mike is in denial on this issue.  Not sure why?  Maybe he has agreed to not support this issue for a trade off.
They admit they are spraying; they just don't admit they are slowing killing us and sending us to the cancer center near you... 
protect your self with clay, castor oil.  I'm sure they will figure a way around with invisible spraying if they haven't already.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: fs773 on June 16, 2015, 10:38:23 am
Note sonofaguns reply to your post
He focuses of an error in spelling of  `disburse`.Thats called a captious comment..meant to point out frivolous issue to distract form content of debate.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: jaray242 on June 16, 2015, 04:41:00 pm
I've wondered about that as well...Seems that a person who questions just about everything but adamantly refuses to even address geoengineering ala chemtrails strikes me a bit odd. Especially when there is very credible evidence to support it.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Ivan on July 09, 2015, 10:49:47 pm
 
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Quote from: MISTER on June 12, 2015, 04:33:33 PM
Mike, When I was young contrails would disburse after only a few minutes, once the plane had passed.
The "contrails" that you say all these planes are leaving, are lasting upwards of a half an hour to 45 minutes, then they disburse and make the sky all milky, not very contrail-like, not at all.
IMHO

Here's Mike's anwser to your question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPbleLKnGPs
In fairness to Mike I think he is just being overly cautious here.
He is a credible guy and needs HARD FACTS not fluff.
If you have something then mail it to him or call into the show...
But if you want Kool-Aid then go to Jonestown! (http://s27.postimg.org/hmbisdg0v/ohyeah.jpg)
#OpStoptheBS
-Ivan  ::)
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Bob Shaffer on July 14, 2015, 10:02:20 am
I've wondered about that as well...Seems that a person who questions just about everything but adamantly refuses to even address geoengineering ala chemtrails strikes me a bit odd. Especially when there is very credible evidence to support it.

Agreed
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: StrawBerryTart on July 14, 2015, 03:05:46 pm
They way he jumps on you and tells you that you"re nuts, it's very weird. I mean he won't even discuss it for the "fun" of it.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Ivan on July 14, 2015, 07:23:25 pm
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They way he jumps on you and tells you that you"re nuts, it's very weird. I mean he won't even discuss it for the "fun" of it.
Who runs around and talks about cemtrails all the time?
Who walks around town filming himself acting like a real nut talking about cemtrails?
Who goes on CNN and acts like gun crazed nut and flips out on Morgan giving us Truthers a bad name?
Alex Jones that's who!
Now tell me why anyone in their right mind would want anything to do with cemtrails after the Alex Jones stunts?
Like I said before if you want Kool-Aid then watch Alex Jones!  ;)
(http://s28.postimg.org/orjkj5kq5/alex_jonestein_meme_generator_i_eat_my_own_poop.jpg)  ;D
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Ivan on July 14, 2015, 10:05:49 pm
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Quote from: jaray242 on June 16, 2015, 04:41:00 PM
I've wondered about that as well...Seems that a person who questions just about everything but adamantly refuses to even address geoengineering ala chemtrails strikes me a bit odd. Especially when there is very credible evidence to support it.
@sonofagun: since you are watching this topic like me. If anyone has "Credible evidence" and not just a YouTube video saying so please send it to Mike because I'd like to know too!
Ya know links, documents stuff like that.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: jaray242 on July 15, 2015, 11:20:07 am
Dane Wiginton has done some credible research on this topic. 
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/dane-wigington-on-afr/ 
http://investmentwatchblog.com/truly-frightening-dane-wiggington-exposes-chemtrails-over-the-usa/

Fellow GCN host Sean Anderson/Flow of Wisdom talks about them as well
http://flowofwisdom.com/2015/04/21/dr-rosalind-peterson-address-u-n-about-geoengineering-chemtrails/
http://flowofwisdom.com/2014/11/24/climate-change-more-likely-caused-by-chemtrailsgeoengineering/
http://flowofwisdom.com/2015/01/14/part-2-scientist-dr-j-marvin-herndon-breaks-down-harmful-effects-of-chemtrails-on-flow-of-wisdom/
There is much more but I'm sure you are capable of doing your research.  These should get you started
The man from Texas is not the only one discussing this topic. 
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: jaray242 on July 15, 2015, 12:19:43 pm
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Quote from: MISTER on June 12, 2015, 04:33:33 PM
Mike, When I was young contrails would disburse after only a few minutes, once the plane had passed.
The "contrails" that you say all these planes are leaving, are lasting upwards of a half an hour to 45 minutes, then they disburse and make the sky all milky, not very contrail-like, not at all.
IMHO

Here's Mike's anwser to your question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPbleLKnGPs
In fairness to Mike I think he is just being overly cautious here.
He is a credible guy and needs HARD FACTS not fluff.
If you have something then mail it to him or call into the show...
But if you want Kool-Aid then go to Jonestown! (http://s27.postimg.org/hmbisdg0v/ohyeah.jpg)
#OpStoptheBS

-Ivan  ::)
I'm not interested in changing his mind..he has a right to his opinion. However if he won't even address the subject or allow a caller to how is he going to get hard facts?  I don't know whether they are real or not...but  I am open to someone stating their case for or against. Has he presented any "hard facts"to disprove them?  All I'm saying is that given everything we know about how Monsanto modifies our food, flouride is added to our water, BPA used in plastics we drink from, and who knows what else...geoengineering being real too should not be that much of stretch
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Ally on August 11, 2015, 09:07:52 pm
Unless you look up whenever you are outside and become aware of them it is hard to believe it.  I've had similar experience to the man who called from Texas into WRH, who said when rain clouds start forming, spraying starts happening and then it gets really hot.  I am in SoCal and the same thing happens here.  These are not clouds or contrails above my house.  When I go out and they are spraying, my eyes itch.
(http://C:\Users\Ally\Documents\ct\DSC05983.JPG)
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Ga. Peach on August 11, 2015, 10:14:27 pm
I too am mystified by Mike's reluctance to discuss the spraying of toxic particulates into our atmosphere, especially given he lives in Hawaii where they are heavily sprayed off the coast and it is allowed to drift in over the islands and there is also much damage to the organic gardening and farms there.(See Michael J. Murphy's documentary films What and Why in the World Are They Spraying?- available free to watch online- millions have already seen them) How can he not be aware of this?? I personally witnessed a dark unmarked military type jet spraying at very low altitude(approx. 10K ft.) a mile west of my farm in North Ga. on May 30, 2012 and have photographic documentation of the subsequent damage done to vegetation, plants and trees on my farm. The food bearing plants in the garden and blackberry and mulberry bushes acted as if hit by an herbicide(curled and furled up with berries blighted and discolored), while the deciduous tree leaves and others looked as if an acid hit them, edges burned off and badly discolored, holes burned into them from pinhole size to size of cigarette burn. 2 horses were discovered with scalds- on neck and hindquarter- and hair fell out. I became ill with flu like symptoms (within 24-36 hrs.) caustically burnt sinus and throat, (for 4 months; had to finally see ENT specialist for the 1st time ever) tightness in upper chest and back, aching spine & joints, mental confusion, burning eyes, etc. Subsequently I did have soil, leaf, and tree bark analysis by private lab- ALL SAMPLES confirmed VERY HIGH Aluminum-(well over toxic allowable levels) and presence of barium, strontium and titanium as well. Folks this is real and this is happening- I am a witness. There is more than enough data and proof to back up this crime against humanity and the earth, one only needs to open their eyes, look up, and do some research.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Manny Hand on August 12, 2015, 09:05:42 am
Mike refuses to discuss other items. He will not address Pilots For 911 Truth point that the Pentagon crash left almost no cargo/seats/bodies on the crash site, or that no human pilots could have done the approach with a standard airliner. I believe Mike is every bit as bent as AJ. Mike just tries to reinforce his credibility in other issues by picking a few issues to falsely and loudly "debunk". Like with most hosts, you have to pick and choose what is important and research it yourself. But at least Mike ain't driving a new Hellcat like AJ recently admitted to, which cost more than I make in 3yrs! The Jones brand supplement business must be good!
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: BraveNewWhirled on August 14, 2015, 08:05:59 am
More than you make in three years? Well, work hard and be diligent. Use each job experience as a move up the financial ladder, adopt a good attitude, and in a short time you could make more than $20 grand in a year like you are right now.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Michael Rivero on August 14, 2015, 02:55:20 pm
How long contrails (or clouds) persist is entirely dependent on factors like temperature, pressure, and humidity.  The closer a volume of air is to the water saturation point, the longer contrails (and clouds) will linger.



Mike,
When I was young contrails would disburse after only a few minutes, once the plane had passed.
The "contrails" that you say all these planes are leaving, are lasting upwards of a half an hour to 45 minutes, then they disburse and make the sky all milky, not very contrail-like, not at all.
IMHO
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Ally on August 14, 2015, 05:40:15 pm
Mike,
Maybe you could have Dane Wigington (geoengineeringwatch.org) on your show.  I love your show, but am not quite convinced that chemtrails do not exist.  I don't have the mechanical or chemistry knowledge that you have, so it is hard for me to decipher all of the details.
He was on the Power Hour a few months ago.  Hope you consider it.  I would like to see if you think he is believable and for you to ask the tough questions.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: Bob Shaffer on August 20, 2015, 06:47:22 pm
His handling of it today was interesting - quickly tried to link it with flat earth theory and also "planes at the Pentagon".   What's his viewpoint on 911?

Bottom line is clear (well, actually quite cloudy  ;)) - what starts out as a clear, blue sky is completely altered by numerous planes criss crossing the sky and altering (yes, it IS altered) the extremely thin atmosphere* we all have to live in.   It qualifies as a global crime.

To scale, our atmosphere is like a THIN layer of varnish on a 12" model globe of the earth.   
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: a_frickin_american on August 21, 2015, 12:29:15 pm
Was that the real Mike Rivero?
He actually thinks chemtrails are "contrails"?  :o
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: a_frickin_american on August 21, 2015, 12:34:04 pm
Well there goes HIS credibility. Sheesh, I understand how 20-year-old kids might deny reality (they don't remember the pre-chemtrail sky) but Mike is way more than old enough to know.
Title: Re: CHEMTRAILS vs. CONTRAILS
Post by: a_frickin_american on August 21, 2015, 12:50:59 pm
Any one who is more than 25 years old and who grew up in a well-traveled air traffic corridor like I did (Chcago MDW, ORD and numerous general aviation airports) remembers what a real sky looked like, and know the difference between disappearing condensation trails and the all-day/all-night cloudtrails or chemtrails that began appearing, in my area, only in 1998.

Also, any one in such an area knows that normal commercial aircraft fly in the same lanes, TO or FROM the airport. They do not fly aimlessly back and forth in crisscross patterns covering the sky with chemtrails. Also, they fly marked planes, not white unmarked ones.